Comments on: Hell coming to earth: Uganda http://www.aaronakins.net/blog/2009/12/09/hell-coming-to-earth-uganda/ Sharing space with my inner geek, teenager and activist. Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:25:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: AaronAkins.net: Sharing Space with my inner geek, teenager and activist. http://www.aaronakins.net/blog/2009/12/09/hell-coming-to-earth-uganda/comment-page-1/#comment-374 AaronAkins.net: Sharing Space with my inner geek, teenager and activist. Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:15:31 +0000 http://www.aaronakins.net/blog/?p=1020#comment-374 [...] I’m sure many of my friends and relatives (especially the latter) call me an extremist when I warn that the American Religious Right is following in the footsteps of the Nazis, the Taliban and others like them. In answer, I point to the Uganda Anti-Gay Bill: it has already begun. [...] [...] I’m sure many of my friends and relatives (especially the latter) call me an extremist when I warn that the American Religious Right is following in the footsteps of the Nazis, the Taliban and others like them. In answer, I point to the Uganda Anti-Gay Bill: it has already begun. [...]

]]> By: Rich http://www.aaronakins.net/blog/2009/12/09/hell-coming-to-earth-uganda/comment-page-1/#comment-347 Rich Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:37:14 +0000 http://www.aaronakins.net/blog/?p=1020#comment-347 First, let me say that I just ran across your blog today, and I'm enjoying reading it. I look forward to more of it. Second, I still consider myself a Christian, but I do lament what I see is the overwhelming influence of those who are leading people away from the message of love and compassion that Christ taught. Too often I think that if He were to visit most churches today, he wouldn't be welcomed there. First, let me say that I just ran across your blog today, and I’m enjoying reading it. I look forward to more of it.

Second, I still consider myself a Christian, but I do lament what I see is the overwhelming influence of those who are leading people away from the message of love and compassion that Christ taught. Too often I think that if He were to visit most churches today, he wouldn’t be welcomed there.

]]> By: AaronAkins http://www.aaronakins.net/blog/2009/12/09/hell-coming-to-earth-uganda/comment-page-1/#comment-224 AaronAkins Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:54:57 +0000 http://www.aaronakins.net/blog/?p=1020#comment-224 Rick Warren has released a video statement regarding his role, or lack thereof, in the Ugandan anti-gay movement. While I obviously disagree with him on some important points, I have little ground or information to call his sincerity on this matter into question - only disappointment that he's waited so long to speak. From Rick Warren: "We are all familiar with Edmund Burke’s insight, “All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.” That is why I’m sharing my heart with you today. As an American pastor, it is not my role to interfere with the politics of other nations, but it IS my role to speak out on moral issues. It is my role to shepherd other pastors who look to me for guidance, and it is my role to correct lies, errors and false reports when others associate my name with a law that I had nothing to do with, completely oppose and vigorously condemn." You can read the full text of his message here: http://www.alrcnewskitchen.com/eblast/others/091210_rickwarren.htm Rick Warren has released a video statement regarding his role, or lack thereof, in the Ugandan anti-gay movement. While I obviously disagree with him on some important points, I have little ground or information to call his sincerity on this matter into question – only disappointment that he’s waited so long to speak. From Rick Warren:

“We are all familiar with Edmund Burke’s insight, “All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.” That is why I’m sharing my heart with you today. As an American pastor, it is not my role to interfere with the politics of other nations, but it IS my role to speak out on moral issues. It is my role to shepherd other pastors who look to me for guidance, and it is my role to correct lies, errors and false reports when others associate my name with a law that I had nothing to do with, completely oppose and vigorously condemn.”

You can read the full text of his message here: http://www.alrcnewskitchen.com/eblast/others/091210_rickwarren.htm

]]> By: AaronAkins http://www.aaronakins.net/blog/2009/12/09/hell-coming-to-earth-uganda/comment-page-1/#comment-220 AaronAkins Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:11:01 +0000 http://www.aaronakins.net/blog/?p=1020#comment-220 <del datetime="2009-12-13T03:57:59+00:00">Towleroad passes the word that the Ugandan Parliament is removing the death and life in prison punishments in this bill in favor of a "more refined set of punishments" in order to attract more religious leaders to support it (http://tinyurl.com/ygtut7z). I wonder what "more refined" means? Caning? Flogging? Jail terms short of life imprisonment? Because AIDS and HIV awareness groups will obviously be OK with their staff being flogged in order to promote awareness of these diseases, and caning teenagers is the norm in all civilized countries...</del> <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/13/death-penalty-uganda-homosexuals" rel="nofollow">So much for that</a> [guardian.co.uk]. <blockquote>[David Bahati] denied reports that international pressure might result in parts of the bill being toned down. "We are not going to yield to any international pressure – we cannot allow people to play with the future of our children and put aid into the game. We are not in the trade of values. We need mutual respect."</blockquote> Towleroad passes the word that the Ugandan Parliament is removing the death and life in prison punishments in this bill in favor of a “more refined set of punishments” in order to attract more religious leaders to support it (http://tinyurl.com/ygtut7z).

I wonder what “more refined” means? Caning? Flogging? Jail terms short of life imprisonment? Because AIDS and HIV awareness groups will obviously be OK with their staff being flogged in order to promote awareness of these diseases, and caning teenagers is the norm in all civilized countries…

So much for that [guardian.co.uk].

[David Bahati] denied reports that international pressure might result in parts of the bill being toned down. “We are not going to yield to any international pressure – we cannot allow people to play with the future of our children and put aid into the game. We are not in the trade of values. We need mutual respect.”

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